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Lot's of people are puzzled by the negative attitude so many here have against Q.
The answer is simple:
Q has no idea who Trump is.
By reading ONE ARTICLE, you'd know that everything Q says is completely out of character for Trump.
This is the article. From 1984.
https://www.nytimes.com/1984/04/08/magazine/the-expanding-empire-of-donald-trump.html
Trump haters and Q followers share one characteristic:
They refuse to grant Trump AGENCY.
The power to act.
Everything I ever read by Q completely ignored Trump. It was always "patriots" doing all this secret stuff while Trump just sat around scratching his butt.
The reality is that all the best ideas COME FROM TRUMP.
Did Q ever talk about the Third Revolution in Military Affairs (3RMA)?
Trump oversaw the transformation of the US military.
TRUMP'S IDEA.
Israel and Saudi Arabia began with the Second Revolution in Military Affairs, which was one long Beta test to use all the new technology and tactics on the battlefield.
It was an interim period.
When everything was perfected, we were able to move right into the 3RMA without having to go through the mess of the 2RMA.
THANKS TO TRUMP.
Not the "patriots."
Q spoke endlessly about the CIA.
Trump sidelined them.
TRUMP, not the "patriots."
Did Q ever tell you how Trump made his administration leakproof?
I told you.
Through the use of barium meals and extensive disinformation operations.
TRUMP did that.
And so on and so on.
Everything Q told you is pedestrian in comparison to the real story.
Trump is a revolutionary. None of you Q folks ever grasped that. You're stuck in the past.
All you had to do was RESEARCH TRUMP, and you too would've understood that Q isn't real.
I've asked a guy for SPECIFIC EXAMPLES of Q telling you something that turned out to be true.
I challenge the rest of you to do the same.
Put your answers in the comments.
This has to be stuff that only an insider would know. It can't be from open sources, and it has to be CONFIRMED.
If you can't do that, then you'll know why I'm not a Q fan.
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@lili60 @ThomasWic I read some Q stuff but it had a lot of military jargon. The one question I have is why everyone is so upset about Q and want to shut down any talk of it or you are anti Trump or anti 🇺🇸 If you follow Q. That usually make me think it is true. I have no idea who or what Q is but the establishment really wants to discredit it. I wonder why?
It's just a scapegoat.
They're not afraid of Q.
They're just USING it as a rationale for doing something they wanted to do for ever.
@ThomasWic @lili60 I see that. But it was a huge movement that opened a lot of eyes & got people researching. The Great Awakening it was called worldwide. I am not a Q advocate. I know Code Monkey was 8 Chan administrator & he quit on Nov 2. Then he helped Sidney Powell & team about election fraud. Also his dad. Cannot remember his name. It is a real mystery. I continue to pray for discernment to know truth vs lie. Someday I pray God real who Q was and it’s true mission. I am clueless.
@formersfgiantsfan @ThomasWic @lili60 my feelings exactly. However I know that Satan is the great deceiver. I pray all the time for truth & Gods discernment to know truth from lie. I trust few totally. I trust @Debradelai & @ThomasWic & have for a long time. In this Q stuff, I trust them. Best, phoebe
@formersfgiantsfan @phoebedrobinson @ThomasWic @lili60
It wasn't a cult to the point that you cannot contain yourself even though you know it will get you kicked out of here...
Sure.
Say what you will about it, you're back to Gab.
@phoebedrobinson @ThomasWic @lili60
Ron Watkins; Jim Watkins
@RStephani @ThomasWic thank you. That are the names.
@ThomasWic @phoebedrobinson @lili60
As I mentioned in another thread, I read some of cues posts and noticed people in there believed Trump is a time traveler and they believe in shape shifters! And they’re really into The Matrix! I would just shake my head. If it were true it was too far over my head, if it was fake stuff it wasn’t worth my time! Just some reading material. Too much vague info. I’ve gotten way way more info on this site-War Room and National pulse is good too👍
Reality vs Fantasy.
Indeed. I’d just shake my head. A lot of them thought this guy named Vincent Fusco (?) was JFKJr lol. And if I’m not mistaken, the very first post was about HRC being arrested lol.
They did encourage researching though-researching everything
@Annasmom22 @lili60 those who practiced the credo "Research for yourself" accepted the movement for what it was... information, some true, some not, but we learned how to peruse information very differently. Overall, it was very good for me. Having said that it was pretty easy to find that which was t true. Most of which never came from 17 (the Fusco disinformation for instance).
@Annasmom22 @lili60 oh, and I'm not an anon, nor am I on the chans. I'm a 56 year old grandma who simply learned how to find information for myself.
@ThomasWic @phoebedrobinson @lili60
I need to clear this up-it’s not cue that believes these things-whoever cue is, he/she/they just post bits of info. It’s the anons/8 Chan people that “interpret” and “guess at” the posts of cue so that’s where the time traveling/shape shifting stuff comes in. And we ALL know how people can interpret anything according to their perspectives. It’s all just so strange-this cue phenomena! Anyway-just wanted to clear that up👍
@Annasmom22 @ThomasWic @phoebedrobinson @lili60
I'll cut you a break, but you are full of shit.
It's not the basyard spewing idiocies! It's the idiots interpreting the bastard spewing idiocies!
It's one and the same fucking thing.
And do not attempt to justify this shit here again.
Interpret this: Do NOT PROMOTE Q SHIT ON THIS PLATFORM. This includes making apologies for the larp.
Do you need a chan interpreter?
@Debradelai @Annasmom22 @ThomasWic @phoebedrobinson
Mr.Saul could you please take my name off this thread. I do not know half of what is going on and on with this.
Yes, I do still follow people on twitter and gab. I have never promoted anything but my opinions right or wrong.If it is against Quodverum rules to follow other people on other platforms please notify me.
Thank-you.
@Debradelai @ThomasWic @phoebedrobinson @lili60
I won’t mention this subject again👍
@ThomasWic @phoebedrobinson @lili60
Including dividing US now.
The sooner we all accept that some of us followed stuff on the chans and some of us did not, but we need to leave it all behind and work together NOW, the better off and more united we can be.
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Let divisions fester, shame on us.
@ThomasWic @phoebedrobinson @lili60
So they are being dishonest?
Paint me green and call me a pickle!
bwahahahah
Well about 2 yrs ago (if I am not mistaken more or less) many people that were on twitter would mention one account to another. I was a reader never had an account. This is how I discovered many people that I follow today. I see for example BenKtallmage/Major Patriot and a few others that wereI people I followed. It took me 6 mths to find Mr. Wictor and Rex. So I am a happy camper.
@lili60 @ThomasWic God bless Your Truth Warriors. I pray truth is kept free. Lord let truth ROAR 🦁
@phoebedrobinson @lili60 @ThomasWic Excellent question!
When asked Trump said: I am against pedophilia and I am against human trafficking's. I don't think anyone is for that.
@phoebedrobinson @lili60 @ThomasWic
Because they are dangerous nutcase.
The establishment jailes murderers. Do you wonder why?
@Debradelai @lili60 @ThomasWic I am glad I have you and Thomas to trust about 17. Still curious though how or who started it. God knows. I guess I will ask Him when I get to heaven. Love you guys! Phoebe
It began with a twitter acct in Oct of 2016 regarding the 'Pizzagate' thing. By Oct of 2017, it had spread to 4 chan where someone claimed '17 Clearance' and authored a thread titled "The Calm before the Storm" and it mulitiplied like a virus since.
@phoebedrobinson @Debradelai @ThomasWic
I think the world was shocked with all the revelations from Trump. The corruption connections worldwide, so whatever was the source we learned it from simply put was a good thing. On the other hand to discern extremism either with antifa 17th or any other is a must.This is a continual task.
❤️
@phoebedrobinson Yeah I looked at it a few times, but didn't understand *any* of it. Way over my head...or something.🤷♀️
@lili60 @ThomasWic
@lili60 @ThomasWic Thomas has a huge following within the Q community. That’s how I 1st heard of Q. There were these people saying there’s a plan and Trump/Flynn/the military can be trusted. I thought they were Thomas followers since Thomas always said Trump has a strategy/plan. Then I realized they were Q followers.
Maybe a shared love and support of Trump/our country is the glue.
Q is the type of bullshit that is so vague that literally anything that is even remotely connected to the statement could be interrupted as, "SEE, Q WAS RIGHT!"
It's like "Nostradamus predicted 9/11" because it used some vague comment and only after 9/11 could they figure that out.
I'm not sure I'll ever understand why people grasp straws like that.
I guess they just need something to believe in.
@umad80 Q is like horoscopes @ThomasWic
@Ballerina @umad80 @ThomasWic
For entertainment, not life planning.
Yes, if you're talking about the ones you see in magazines or newspapers.
If you followed Q then two things should totally remove willingness to do so. First they said 2020+ elections were secured. And yet we watched it be stolen and nothing stopped the theft. Second they predicted these Red stages to lead to taking down the cabal. Multiple of them “happened” but in the end it made no difference. That alone tells you it was all guesses and nonsense
@TiffanyMauk @umad80 @ThomasWic
Just playing devils advocate... if wictor s theory pans out, would that mean that the stolen election would be rectified? If somehow accurate votes are counted, could that not still mean a red wave is an option? & if trump does have an fill proof option, was the rig necessary to change system for the future? 🤷♀️
@ReneeFagan @umad80 @ThomasWic
I guess time will tell. Like Thomas I don’t try to predict what Trump will do
@TiffanyMauk @umad80 @ThomasWic
....in part I both agree & disagree with your comments. Yes, q had said the election was safe, but it was President Trump who made the electoral system classified as a part of critical infrastructure, placing it under the watchful eye of CISA, but it was still stolen despite of this.
I guess I took it that they had ensured the election would not be stolen. Still not much else has come to fruition.
@TiffanyMauk @umad80 @ThomasWic
Agree...I would've hoped the Department of Homeland Security (CISA) had ensured this but the outcome of the election proved otherwise. I trust President Trump and can't shake the feeling something bigger is at play.
Your last sentence is the key to the”Q” thing. Disinformation thrives in uncertainty and censorship. It also thrives in intellectual laziness as well as that sad human trait of wanting to feel one knows something without studying it
@ThomasWic
They can’t conspiracy fiction is something the Democrats wallow in as well as the self described (deluded) “”insiders”
@ThomasWic
"Specific examples": speaking in tongues, to be interpreted as prophecies, not unlike the vagaries of Nostradamus.
@ThomasWic - I recall when everyone felt a “proof” of Q was at one point early in debate season that Trump responded to being prompted about it, saying he didn’t know much about it but if they’re opposed to child trafficking, etc, then that seemed fine. Does anyone else remember his full response? I know several people that were like “THERE IT IS!!” and I was pretty underwhelmed.
Hi @CowfaceX @ThomasWic President Trump said “I don’t know much about the movement besides that they like me very much,” during a press briefing at the White House. “These are people that don’t like seeing what’s going in places like Portland and Chicago.”
He added: “I heard these are people that love our country.”
@Debseydoo @ThomasWic - Much appreciated Debsey! This sounds accurate. Do you have the source for this? I do feel like there may have been another response out there too, but could be wrong.
If that is what is said then I can appreciate that he still addressed the people that pushed Q and still not specifically Q. 🤷🏻♂️
@CowfaceX @ThomasWic POTUS went on to say "We are saving the World from a radical left philosophy that will destroy this Country and when this gone the rest of the World will follow" !!! (sorry it's NBC) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNI553Np__k
@Debseydoo @ThomasWic - Yep! That’s perfect! I think I remembered the second part more.
Do notice he literally shook his head and essentially reclarified the way he is saving the world and not how the Q movement purports he is.
@Debseydoo @CowfaceX @ThomasWic
Another confirmation that Trump has something up his sleeve. He knows how important what happens in our country is to the rest of the world. There is no way he just walks away and surrenders to the left.
@mrsmamaduck @CowfaceX @ThomasWic The World is watching and Praying. Believe President Trump has the evidence and as 'fraud vitiates everything' just wondering how this will be resolved legally and Constitutionally. Will Biden be forced to resign as he is illegitimate or given 'notice to quit' or face impeachment himself ?
@Debseydoo @CowfaceX @ThomasWic I always enjoyed listening to him the most when he used that tone of voice. The q folks were always wanting someone to ask President Trump about q. Never gave q more than it deserved. Whatever anything is today we need truth and leadership. Thanks given to @ThomasWic @REX et.al.😊
@oakkqs @CowfaceX @ThomasWic @REX and Mr Cates <<< A Few Good Men. Learned so much from independently researching the info drops from seventeenth letter peeps just as Mr @REX discussed in his article on the subject years ago on the 'dead bird'. Law and Order will be restored throughout your Country and the World because of the actions of President Trump despite relentless abuse.
I was midly entertained by the Q stuff early on, but boy did it bring out the schizos. This woman on Twitter was DMing me all these conspiracy theories awhile back, and told me she had a "top secret" photo of an actual demon manifesting out of a child that she never showed anyone before.
She eventually sent me the image and made me sware I wouldn't share it with anyone... it was literally a blurry picture of a baby.
@chumbucket @ThomasWic How wild! I was also more entertained by it but after several times of googling some of their claims (which would have shown up in some form) and coming up empty, my intelligence was insulted. Deep Underground Military Bases? THOUSANDS of them? Umm, ok.
@ThomasWic
Well if I may, I discovered you through a Q guy (Juliansrum) but as for the rest it's all a fantasy mission impossible movie.