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In 2011, I read the manifesto of the Norwegian mass shooter.

It struck me as ludicrously pompous.

Also, his portraits were very similar to satirical photos popular in the early 1980s.

I'm now convinced that the Norwegian was the first trolling mass shooter.

info.publicintelligence.net/An

Most people didn't read the manifesto.

Here are some quotes:

"3.40 Applying deceptive means in urban guerrilla warfare

"Give the impression to police authorities that you are after cash, a few million Euro. Tell them to prepare the funds and order them to make a delivery at a defined location and time. This may allow you to conceal your real objective for a while."

"If the Police believe you are just another criminal after cash they will generally avoid armed confrontation and instead attempt to arrest you at a later point."

This isn't real. He's pretending to offer sage advice on urban combat, but he was a former clerk and farmer who was unemployed when he carried out his attack.

He's not delusional. This is trolling.

"Do not break any laws which will lead to a pursuit before initiating your primary mission. An imprudent act might give up your position or intentions away to the enemy."

He broke multiple laws before his attack.

He tried to buy weapons illegally in Prague, he engaged in financial scams, and he violated tax laws.

But EVERYONE in Norway breaks as many laws as they can.

That's what happens in nanny states.

"A system protector who raises a gun against you must be shown no mercy. You can be assured that he will regroup with other agents as soon as you let him go. He will believe you may spare him and lower his gun if you defeat his unit (2 other individuals). Use this opportunity to neutralise him."

Have you ever read anything more laughable in your life?

His point was to make people think he was SERIOUS.

Breivik got cosmetic surgery before he had these photos taken.

Those photos are a jarring contrast to every other image of him.

That's the point.

He's trolling us into thinking he was a vain ladies' man, when in reality he had no interest in women or men.

THE WHOLE POINT is to get people to study him.

But there's nothing to study.

Remember when the "Alt-Right" got famous?

Milo Yiannopoulos tried to explain them.

He said that when racism and Jew-hate are expressed, it isn't real. It's just SATIRE.

The problem is that the "Alt-Right" were clearly NOT satirizing anything.

They were expressing common cause.

Dave Chapelle satirized racism absolutely brilliantly.

youtube.com/watch?v=JBC-9k3y1e

SATIRE is immediately seen as such.

TROLLING is designed to make people think you're serious so that they make fools out of themselves believing you.

The "white power" sign was invented by trolls.

It continues to fool the "experts."

"In 2017, the 'okay' hand gesture acquired a new and different significance thanks to a hoax by members of the website 4chan to falsely promote the gesture as a hate symbol, claiming that the gesture represented the letters 'wp,' for 'white power.'"

"The 'okay' gesture hoax was merely the latest in a series of similar 4chan hoaxes using various innocuous symbols; in each case, the hoaxers hoped that the media and liberals would overreact by condemning a common image as white supremacist.

"In the case of the 'okay' gesture, the hoax was so successful the symbol became a popular trolling tactic on the part of right-leaning individuals, who would often post photos to social media of themselves posing while making the 'okay' gesture."

What happens in the best act of trolling?

Your trolling becomes real.

"Ironically, some white supremacists themselves soon also participated in such trolling tactics, lending an actual credence to those who labeled the trolling gesture as racist in nature."

adl.org/education/references/h

Here's where the ADL itself gets fooled.

"By 2019, at least some white supremacists seem to have abandoned the ironic or satiric intent behind the original trolling campaign and used the symbol as a sincere expression of white supremacy, such as when Australian white supremacist Brenton Tarrant flashed the symbol during a March 2019 courtroom appearance soon after his arrest for allegedly murdering 50 people in a shooting spree at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand."

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I read the Christchurch mass shooter's manifesto.

It's nothing but shitposting.

It's not real.

His "white power" hand signal is not real.

I watched the entire video of his mass shooting.

It was trolling from beginning to end.

Remember: The "okay" hand gesture becoming a symbol of white supremacism was a hoax.

NOW trolls are hoaxing the world into thinking that white supremacists are committing mass shootings.

A serious white supremacist does not write a spurious manifesto.

A serious white supremacist does not create bizarre portraits with no context whatsoever.

Trolls are comedians with no talent.

They're performance artists with no artistry.

And they're all deeply mentally ill. Trolling is a sign of catastrophic insanity.

I hope that the Dayton police released the video of the mass shooter being shot to pieces as a warning.

It was very satisfying to see the Antifa satanist struggle to get up as pieces of his body were flying off.

NOW someone needs to leak the autopsy photos.

I knew in 2011 that there was something very wrong with the notion that the Norwegian mass shooter's "manifesto" had to be taken at face value, but I couldn't figure out what the real story was.

Now I understand that he was the first trolling mass shooter.

Trolls compete with each other. Therefore unless we do something FAST, we're going to see "satirical" mass shooting happen much more often.

It's clear that Trump understands what's happening, so I fully expect him to address the issue effectively.

Public mass shootings are the result of mental illness. Period.

Once we can DEFINE the problem, we can solve it.

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@ThomasWic

The trolling mass shootings for notoriety is a prospect that is frightening.

@ThomasWic I watched Bill Mitchell spend 2 days arguing with same idiots all saying

"Nope nope nope, never gonna happen, we can't have that, they might come for ME someday, so drop this!"

@drawandstrike

1 of 2

You have a big Twitter platform.

Tell everyone MY story:

Red-flag California.

On September 28, 2018, tweeted in reference to leftist attackers, "We'll need to see assailants shot to pieces on air before this stops. Brains and teeth flying."

Immediately banned from Twitter for life.

Alyssa Milano reported me to the FBI, saying my comment was about her.

Two local cops attached to an FBI task force came to my house.

@drawandstrike

2 of 2

Cops showed me a tweet I'd sent in 2015, with the attached photo and the comment, "I take psychotropic medication so that others can live."

I explained that I sent the tweet in response to endless death threats.

I asked the cops if they wanted to see my meds; they said yes, so I showed them, and they wrote them in the report.

They asked me if I wanted to harm myself or others. I said no.

Yikes. See ADDENDUM.

@drawandstrike

ADDENDUM:

The cops agreed that in the face of death threats, it was smart for me to present myself as armed and unafraid.

They asked if I was employed, and I told them I'm an investor. They asked about investments, and I told them about about closed-end mutual funds.

The interview took half an hour.

Yikes. See ADDENDUM TWO.

@drawandstrike

ADDENDUM TWO

Here in deep-blue red-flag California, the most famous leftist political activist filed a complaint against me.

I have mental illness in the form of PTSD, I take a heavy load of psychotropic medication, I'd posted a tweet of myself holding a firearm, and I was banned from twitter for "making threats."

The cops CLOSED THE CASE, and nobody took my guns.

They shook my hand and wished me well.

I had EVERY CARD stacked against me.

No confiscation.

@ThomasWic
Now some will twist their thoughts into pretzels just to justify their hysteria.
@drawandstrike

@ThomasWic @drawandstrike

The police have the authority now to assess someone for 'danger' if someone calls in with a complaint. No new laws are needed.

You have to consider what we KNOW liberals want to do, and what they've already done to harm this country and our rights over the last 50 years.

You can't give them a tool that can be abused if left unchecked. This is definitely one of those tools.

The problem is what MADE these people. Address the root cause. That's NOT being done.

@Watcher9 @drawandstrike

I just don't understand this.

You're willing to use psychiatric evaluation to put dangerous people in mental institutions, but you're not willing to use psychiatric evaluation to disarm dangerous people.

You're supporting potential government abuse on a scale that dwarfs red-flag laws.

@ThomasWic @Watcher9 @drawandstrike
MY GOD, MAN!!
DO I HAVE TO INJECT EVERY SEASON OF THE X-FILES DIRECTLY INTO YOUR CEREBRAL CORTEX?

@ThomasWic @drawandstrike
I didn't say that at all. I'm saying that ability is already there for cops and investigators, we don't need something new to cover what's already covered.

A bigger problem is what to do with these people? Just grab the guns and leave? That's not a solution. Meanwhile everyone is ignoring what the root causes of this problem are, and who is inciting more of this behavior.

Nothing is being done except an attempt to make it easier to violate ALL our rights later.

@Watcher9 @drawandstrike

The ability for cops to do that nationwide is NOT there, which is why Trump is supporting federal legislation.

Disarming the dangerously mentally ill person WILL prevent the mass shooting. You can't argue that.

We need DIFFERENT legislation to end the failed social experiment of deinstitutionalization.

AGAIN, I was targeted in a red-flag liberal state by a woman with massive political influence. My guns were not taken.

How do you explain that?

@ThomasWic @Watcher9 @drawandstrike
Thomas because you could verbally and mentally defend yourself. Truthfully I have to do soul searching. I’ve known or have known of vindictive exes, ex friends, neighbors, in-laws that spout anything they are so filled with venom. You also lucked out on smart cops. Mental health reform is a must now.

@ThomasWic @drawandstrike
These weren't investigators that were bent on giving you a bad time, nor were they interested in grabbing your firearms, let alone hauling you off to jail for a perceived threat. Plus, you cooperated.

I'm not arguing that disarming an mentally unstable person isn't a good idea. It needs to be done.

I am saying is that this is the wrong approach. It's not going to achieve the intended result, and it will be abused.

It's also going to cost Trump support.

@Watcher9 How will it be abused?
17 states enacted Red Flag Laws with some after the shooting.
What you don't ask is how many lives has it already saved and how many potential threats have been thwarted?
People are quick to say it will fail, what policy of Trump's has failed? jesus 🤦🏻‍♀️

So sick of people saying it would cost Trump his support.
It won't pass anyway because Immigration Reform will most likely be attached to it. Dems won't go for that.

@ThomasWic @drawandstrike

@Krissy_Caster70 @Watcher9 @ThomasWic I grew up in the 70's and 80's where stories of women being killed by ex-husbands & ex-boyfriends was a **regular staple** of the news. Most of these women were shot.

Getting anti-stalking laws passed took a long time. Many women died waiting for a restraining order which sometimes weren't even enforced when they were granted.

@Krissy_Caster70 @Watcher9 @ThomasWic There is often PLENTY OF EVIDENCE a guy is talking about killing someone. They leave notes. They rant on answering machines. They've been arrested for assaulting their target in the past.

I can't tell you how many times I read a story about some poor woman being stalked by a guy for years who left notes, ranted on her answering machine that he was going to kill her, he'd just bought a gun, etc. etc.

@Krissy_Caster70 @Watcher9 @ThomasWic IF a guy has provided clear evidence in documentary and audio form that he is threatening to kill someone, let's say an ex-wife or a girlfriend who's left him, you think I have a **problem** with her or her family using a red flag law to get a court order after a hearing befor a judge to the police take this guy's guns away from him?

I don't.

@drawandstrike @Krissy_Caster70 @ThomasWic

I don't have a problem with that either. I do think regardless of which state a person is in, there are mechanisms to accomplish that without a new law that has immense potential to be abused.

Maybe I'm wrong about the mechanisms in states across the country, maybe not. I know in Michigan it's already too damned easy to use the law to screw people over like that, and it takes forever to clear yourself of it.

@Krissy_Caster70 @ThomasWic @drawandstrike

ANY messing around with the 2nd amendment will cost Trump support. How much, I don't know. Depends on how well he can deflect the criticism.

That isn't my main problem with this red flag stuff though, and I'm tired of arguing it already.

Support it if you agree with it. I don't. As I've said, meanwhile, REAL solutions aren't being discussed, let alone implemented.

@Krissy_Caster70 @Watcher9 @ThomasWic @drawandstrike I saw someone say on Brian’s twitter thread that if we enact these laws, it will be like social media where the states will be overwhelmed with false reporting and it’ll be years before you get your guns back!

She failed to realize how many states have this law and this isn't happening.

She doesn't understand social media is not real life.

She doesn't get that unless you're waving your gun around, most won't know you own one.

@umad80 @Krissy_Caster70 @ThomasWic @drawandstrike

Sure. Nothing to worry about at all, especially in leftist-heavy states. The more power the government has the better!

No worries, carry on.

@mariel @umad80 @Krissy_Caster70 @ThomasWic @drawandstrike

No, I didn't. I'm obviously not making the point I wanted to make in spite of several attempts, so I'll just let it be.

It's ok, it's definitely not the first time that's happened. I disagree with it, many do not, but I can't seem to get the point across.

*shrug*

@Krissy_Caster70 @Watcher9 @ThomasWic @drawandstrike Kind of ridiculous to not vote for Trump because of one single issue. He has nominated conservative judges and can further shape the SCOTUS as well as the 9th circuit court. He has my support.

@LiveFree That's what I thought.
Nancy Pelosi does not want to come out of recess and PDJT wants to attach immigration reform to the bill. So, how serious are the Democrats on gun reform?
Just my 2 cents.

@Watcher9 @ThomasWic @drawandstrike

@Krissy_Caster70 @LiveFree @ThomasWic @drawandstrike

I know the libs are daft, but if they want something like this passed they know it'd have to be on a naked bill.

BUT, this is not a bill that can be passed federally and dictated to the states anyway. It's something each state has to adopt individually.

Trump is promising support to those states that want to make this effort. That may be where federal legislation is required since making grants and such is a budgetary issue.

@LiveFree @Krissy_Caster70 @ThomasWic @drawandstrike

I didn't say that I wouldn't support Trump over one issue. I said there are a lot of people that will bail on him like that. I'm hearing them and shaking my head. I can't shake them off their petards either.

People have become just nucking futs.

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@Watcher9 @LiveFree @Krissy_Caster70 @drawandstrike

Trump doesn't need these people.

He's more than made up for them among independents and former Democrats.

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@ThomasWic @Watcher9 @LiveFree @Krissy_Caster70 @drawandstrike Too many people including certain personalities refuse to address this.

Most of President Trump's base are Ex-Liberals like himself. It's the real reason why he won.

The GOP didn't just suddenly become moral, he happened to be the first honest person to run and thanks to his past planning he achieved it through reaching their voters.

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@Watcher9 You did not say that. I know.
I mentioned it because like you, i have seen the rhetoric and shaking my head.
They are def a waste of breath. FK'um.

@Watcher9 @Krissy_Caster70 @ThomasWic @drawandstrike no worries. I was making a general comment on where I read if Trump “supports this” or “signs this” he will lose the re-election. I am pleased at how Pres. Trump is able to get the elitists to reveal their true colors. They are basically against anything he proposes. I doubt many Trump supporters will drop him.

@LiveFree @Krissy_Caster70 @ThomasWic @drawandstrike

One would have to be crazy to drop support for Trump. Even if you really didn't like him, my God, look at the alternatives!

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@ThomasWic @Watcher9 @drawandstrike
I live in SoCal
I wear this hat where ever I go
every cop, sheriff that sees it says, "nice hat"

@ThomasWic @Watcher9 @drawandstrike
When I lived in Las Vegas my roommate and his girlfriend got into a fight. More like she was beating his ass while she was on the phone with her mom. Mom hung up and called 911 in our address. Cops came and roomie and his girl had already reconciled.
"Well, it was a domestic disturbance call so we HAVE to arrest someone." Roomie took the hit and we bailed him out by 4am.

Here's the thing. That chick was nucking futz! I had known crazy girls but this one was out there like Pluto. I had many frantic experiences with her. Well, they got married, had a child and got divorced over the course of 4 years. About 2 years after they split and her having been arrested several times, her mother put a restraining order on her. A week after that she smashed through the bedroom window of her moms apartment and strangled her mother to death. Pretty sure she is still locked up.

@ThomasWic You are correct Thomas, somewhat simple research. I looked up @umad80 ? story and the amount of requests received since the state first enacted Red Flag Laws. Hundreds.

@Watcher9 @drawandstrike

@ThomasWic Tom, I linked to your earlier post tonight on Twitter.

Read the responses if you can.

It's all "Well he's a special case, he's smart!"

twitter.com/drawandstrike/stat

@ThomasWic I have now linked your thread there.

Let's hope some of them calm down.

@drawandstrike

Well, most people have at least one thing that they're utterly irrational about.

We're seeing that a lot of people are simply incapable of thinking clearly when it comes to guns.

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