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Guns, mental illness, drugs, and laws.

Makell L. Meyerin of Spring Grove, Illinois.

Heroin addict from the age of 14. She had a long arrest record, included felony burglary, for which she was sentenced 5 years.

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Makell's mother said the only time she heard of her daughter was when she was on the news for committing another crime.

On May 23, 2018, in Antioch, Lake County, Illinois, Makell and her boyfriend were going door to door, asking for money.

When the cops were called, they sped away, and Makell fired at the cops with a Beretta Cx4 Storm Tactical Carbine.

Was it legal for her to have it?

Why no! It wasn't!

Makell and her boyfriend got away and then stole a Prius and overdosed in it.

The cops were called AGAIN, and Makell led them on a chase.

This is the video. She didn't survive, but the video isn't gruesome.

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Makell's mother said the only time her violent career-criminal daughter was sober was when she was...incarcerated.

Her autopsy showed that she was full of opiates, cocaine, benzodiazepines, fentanyl, heroin, and buprenorphine.

So: Drug laws failed and gun laws failed.

In fact the entire criminal justice system failed.

What's the only thing that would've worked?

A long sentence in a state psychiatric hospital.

Makell L. Meyerin --all by herself--create two enormous crime scenes.

The cops said they'd never had a situation in which someone had fired a long gun at officers in two entirely separate places.

And THIS thing is a pistol converted to a tactical carbine.

For mass shootings, it's BETTER than an AR-15.

We can either face reality, or we can continue to allow the drug-addicted mentally ill to continue to commit ever-increasingly violent crimes.

ALL VIOLENT CRIME HAS PLUMMETED.

Except for crime committed by the violently mentally ill.

The answer is easy.

It's not about "criminalizing mental illness."

It's preventing the mentally ill from committing crimes.

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@ThomasWic Early in the video when the cop was approaching the car, he knew they had probably overdosed. Guess that knowledge is common now for LEOs as it happens daily. Got me thinking. In my opinion, narcan should only be used for LEOs & EMTs who have to deal with this crap. Why use it on anyone who will continue to use drugs and very possibly cause harm to the first responders willing to save them.

@EarlThePearls I realize that.
This video shows something all too common now, going on in this country. And it infuriates me that junkies like this can be brought back from the brink of death just to do it again.
@ThomasWic

@Baline

You never know what is a person's bottom.

Maybe this use of narcan will be the one that takes.

Took me 10 years to quit.

Sure glad no one gave up on me

LIFE IS VALUABLE

@EarlThePearls I'm thrilled that you kicked it. Sorry if I'm irritating you, Earl. Not my intention. I'm going thru a rough patch myself the last few days; feeling down and a bit frustrated. This is my issue, not yours. Peace.

@Baline No worries - My comments are not addressed to you specifically.
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General Comment:

I have noticed in general lately that some people seem to think killing folks for whatever small reason is fine.

If one goes armed, one needs to figure out the level at which you will kill a person

I assume if one carries, one is prepared to kill, yes?

@EarlThePearls

The dead man shoved this guy so hard that he fell down. Then the dead man stepped forward.

Ever seen what people to those who are lying on the ground?

Drejka pulled his gun, the dead man stepped back, and then Drejka fired.

The whole thing is a clusterf*ck on every level, but it's clear that Drejka didn't carry a pistol in order to shoot people for "whatever small reason."

He was assaulted with great force. Only then did he pull his pistol.

You are deeply dishonest.

@ThomasWic @EarlThePearls

Initiation of violent force (in answer to gestures, words) can easily put someone in fear of their life. That's CODED IN OUR DNA.

And yet, from the video, normative (SHOULDS/OUGHTS) projections are made:

1) What impact initiated violence OUGHT to have on a victim of assault.

2) How quickly (in fractions of seconds) a victim OUGHT to calmly reason that his perpetrator is not really a threat to his life.

3) How the assaulted victim OUGHT to interpret movements.

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@ThomasWic @EarlThePearls

My grandfather told me about a neighbor of his who was assaulted by her burglar.

As they wrestled she struggled to get to her gun in a drawer near the front door.

When she succeeded, gun in hand, the burglar fled out the front door.

She emptied six rounds into his back, ran back, reloaded, and continued to scream for help, her gun trained on the bullet-riddled corpse.

To her he was STILL A THREAT; retreat didn't automatically mean that she was safe.

@StevenDouglas @ThomasWic @EarlThePearls

I think anyone who breaks into someone else's home should be considered to have forfeited their right to live without bullet holes in their body.

@Kambeii @ThomasWic @EarlThePearls

By default they're willfully spinning a roulette wheel, the results of which you, the casino, are not responsible.

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