Seth Rich leaked to Wikileaks?
Entirely plausible. If true, this would be the reference Mark Warner was making about the devastating information implicating the Democrats, in his texts to Waldman in 2017.
We need gold standard proof, however. And please, no conspiracy theories on Rich's murder. That's a separate issue.
It's interesting that none of the main players allegedly involved, have denied it.
You'd think that Ellen Rattner, in particular, would be keen to IMMEDIATELY shut down a conspiracy theory, in which she is directly named.
The sudden lugenpresse push in recent days to paint Butowski as a Russian stooge is also odd, to put it mildly.
Here's the relevant Warner-Waldman texts:
Warner & Waldman are clearly discussing Assange on Feb 15/16, 2017.
Warner texts on 16 Feb:
'Just want to underscore my opinion and the reason I got involved – this guy is going to do something catastrophic for the dems, Obama, CIA and national security. I hope someone will consider getting him to the US to ameliorate the damage.'
'Assange can prove that [Seth Rich / DNC] leaked the DNC emails to Wikileaks, nuking the Dems and their corrupt proxies in the US govt'.
Credible voices have already IDd Assange as 'our guy' that Warner & Waldman are referring to (see Jeff Carlson, below).
We need to be careful. Assange is an anarchist and no friend of the US. His trustworthiness is questionable.
Against that, though, is that the information WL has produced has never been false.
Assange's word won't be enough, in itself.
The evidence proving that the DNC info was leaked to WL will have to be rock-solid, b/c the Dems will do everything in their power to cast doubt on it.
They've already started on Assange himself, again a telling indicator they're worried. Check out this April 2019 statement from, guess who?
Why, Mark Warner, who was so keen to soft-glove Assange in 2017, but now has a different POV, quote:
'...what [Assange] has really become is a direct participant in Russian efforts to undermine the West and a dedicated accomplice in efforts to undermine American security.'
Again, this may be true. But t
the WL source could still be the DNC, which if true would (as Warner himself admitted), w
be 'catastrophic' for the Dems.
Let's see what happens.
Absence rock-solid evidence, this is still speculation. However, today's news and the lack of denials by participants, combined with the odd behaviour of the Dems on the Hill & the DNC lugenpresse, makes the central allegation more credible.
At least, to me it does.
ADDENDUM: OK, something is definitely up.
CNN have just published a ridiculous piece claiming that Assange used the Ecuadorian Embassy as his HQ for 2015/16 Russian election meddling.
This report is sloppy & utter BS, for at least 5 reasons: .
#1 - Putin wouldn't have used one of the most surveilled people in the world, in one of the most surveilled buildings, to conduct an anti-US election meddling campaign.
Nor would Trump, who we are supposed to believe was working with Putin, the whole time.
'I know, let's use Assange in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London. That way, we'll never be found out.'
I mean, the idea is so laughably ridiculous, it's really a measure of the desperation of Obama & Clinton. 🤦♂️
#2 Russian 'agents' wouldn't be so stupid as to visit Assange in the open in London, even signing log books.
'Yuri, remember that Vladimir wants you to leave an entire trail of evidence linking you, a Putin spook, to Assange, OK? Be seen, also sign the log books at the embassy, as your spook training has taught you. PS tell the others.'
Again, patently absurd BS.🤦♀️
#3 this 'new' info was somehow not detected by UK's GCHQ, the US NSA, by the 5 Eyes network or by the Ecuadorians.
All through 2015/16.
'Gee, somehow we missed all this activity, even though we had 24/7 full spectrum surveillance on Assange and the Ecuadorian Embassy, in London, for SEVEN YEARS (2012-2019).'
'Those Russian spooks are damn clever, ain't they? Shucks.'
#4 this bombshell info was never mentioned once in the so called 13 intel agencies joke report issued by Brennan & Clapper.
Nor by FakeNews (US, UK, Ecuador), by Assange, nor by Putin himself, as he was hammered by Trump's sanctions all.thru 2017-2019.
It's almost as if...these things never happened (hint: they didn't).
#5 Gee, somehow this new info ALSO wasn't picked up by 2 x Congressional investigations, Mueller's SC, or anyone else for that matter.
Seems odd, since the allegation is that dozens of Kremlin agents were coming in and out of the Ecuadorian Embassy in 2016, delivering packets of incriminating material to Assange, who, er, ALSO apparently had a super-duper secret high tech IT network set up, right under Ecuador's noses.
Seriously, who wrote this crap. Seth Abramson?
That's just FIVE solid reasons why this new report is 100% FICTION.
No doubt, there are many more reasons, too.
This garbage comes on top of a nonsensical Yahoo piece a few days ago by none other than inkshitter Michael Isikoff, that hilariously contradicts thus new CNN report, claiming the DNC emails were hacked by the Russian troll farm indicted by Mueller's SC.
Oh, about Robert Mueller:
Isikoff mentions a certain Deborah Sines, the DC homicide veteran assigned to the Rich murder, who of course agrees with Mueller that the DNC was hacked by them damned Ruskis.
Makes sense. Sines BFF, colleague on many cases and boss was a fellow called Glenn Kirshner, presently starring as a raving anti-Trump lunatic, on MSNBC.
Who is Glenn Kirshner?
Kirschner was DC Homicide Deputy Chief of the Homicide Section for four years and Chief of the Homicide Section from 2004 – 2010. He retired from the DC USAO on June 1, 2018.
Kirshner & Sines would have run the Seth Rich case. Oh, who was their direct boss between 1990-1993 & then 1990-1998?
And still their great hero?
Sines is VERY anxious to link 'muh Putin' to the Wikileaks DNC emails. And to back up Mueller.
Ditto, Kirschner. BTW here he is in full on adulation mode , to Rob Reiner's nutty anti-Trump site:
Now, to be clear : I'm NOT wading into Seth Rich murder conspiracies.
I'm just pointing out that all these people pushing the 'muh DNC hack' narrative are connected.
And also, that all the right people appear to be VERY nervous about something that's about to emerge about Julian Assange, the DNC and Seth Rich.
We will learn the truth, soon enough.
@REX If Aaron was also implicated it would make sense why the family shut everything down so emphatically...they were literally scared for his life as well
@REX We'll have to wait and see, fudge rule?
@REX you have to wonder what they intended doing with him once he was here. deal with the devil.
@REX Can't remember who was speaking about this so let's put it in the speculation basket at well. They were discussing the forensics of this "hack" and noted the speed of the transfer was WAY too fast to be a hack across the web. It had to be a download to an external drive. Someone with direct access to the system. Another "lost opportunity" for DNC was when the firewall went down and Bernie got access to their info. They should have blamed that on the Russians then we wouldn't be talking now.
@REX Thanks for the confirmation that I remembered that correctly! So much going on, we sometimes forget details.
Please read this
Trust your gut.
Great thread Rex.
The CNN article is laughable and unbelievable at the same time. The architects of Spygate are in a death spiral and are desperately trying to delay the inevitable. Justice is coming. They messed with the wrong guy. President Trump always goes to the mat for his family and that includes us.
Is "Orange Man Bad" an impeachable offense 😂
@REX Sounds like the kinda crazy Seth would write.
Rich Dotcom has tweeted more than once that he wants to testify in regards to the DNC hack.
He has said that Seth Rich is the person that provided the leaked information about the DNC and that he has proof. Whether that is true or not, we don't know.
@REX Set Rich or not, anybody who has looked into it at all knows by now it does not appear to have been a hack, in any case. Players on all sides have been pushing that narrative ad nauseam.
That is one pathetic article there, a joke! More desperation on display. But sadly there seems to be no bottom to the bs the public will buy into. Boggles the mind really.
Both Assange and the Epstein case have potential for some massive bombshells. It''s time!
@REX There are just so many unanswered questions and we've been waiting a while. Who will answer with the truth?
Incestuous! That's the only word that comes to mind in regards to all the *tie-in* these swamp critters have with each other.
Way to coincidental for me.
My comment to CNN:
ACHOOO! I'm allergic to BS! 😂
From the article:
"These stunning details come from hundreds of surveillance reports compiled for the Ecuadorian government by UC Global, a private Spanish security company, and obtained by CNN."
Wish I knew how to research WHO has ties to UC Global?
"The leaks are real, the news is fake,* keeps popping into my head!
@REX and re extradition, POTUS is holding a full house. getting rid of the ambassador was just the visible result. he's holding spygate over the queen's head like an umbrella in a shite shower.
Rex i don't know who this guy is but i stumbled across this on twitter and found it interesting especially after reading your thread
@Mongo3804 Thanks for passing "Land of the Free" on to the rest of us. Very interesting thread.
If true the DNC goes down in flames!
And I’m going to be thrilled watching the most corrupt establishment in America burn! Let the truth set America free from the lunacy and embarrassment DNC/MSM clowns have shamelessly brought upon us globally.
@REX This was what I saw on Twitter as well. Maybe info will come out in the IG report?
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