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Guns, mental illness, drugs, and laws.

Makell L. Meyerin of Spring Grove, Illinois.

Heroin addict from the age of 14. She had a long arrest record, included felony burglary, for which she was sentenced 5 years.

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Makell's mother said the only time she heard of her daughter was when she was on the news for committing another crime.

On May 23, 2018, in Antioch, Lake County, Illinois, Makell and her boyfriend were going door to door, asking for money.

When the cops were called, they sped away, and Makell fired at the cops with a Beretta Cx4 Storm Tactical Carbine.

Was it legal for her to have it?

Why no! It wasn't!

Makell and her boyfriend got away and then stole a Prius and overdosed in it.

The cops were called AGAIN, and Makell led them on a chase.

This is the video. She didn't survive, but the video isn't gruesome.

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Makell's mother said the only time her violent career-criminal daughter was sober was when she was...incarcerated.

Her autopsy showed that she was full of opiates, cocaine, benzodiazepines, fentanyl, heroin, and buprenorphine.

So: Drug laws failed and gun laws failed.

In fact the entire criminal justice system failed.

What's the only thing that would've worked?

A long sentence in a state psychiatric hospital.

Makell L. Meyerin --all by herself--create two enormous crime scenes.

The cops said they'd never had a situation in which someone had fired a long gun at officers in two entirely separate places.

And THIS thing is a pistol converted to a tactical carbine.

For mass shootings, it's BETTER than an AR-15.

We can either face reality, or we can continue to allow the drug-addicted mentally ill to continue to commit ever-increasingly violent crimes.

ALL VIOLENT CRIME HAS PLUMMETED.

Except for crime committed by the violently mentally ill.

The answer is easy.

It's not about "criminalizing mental illness."

It's preventing the mentally ill from committing crimes.

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@ThomasWic Early in the video when the cop was approaching the car, he knew they had probably overdosed. Guess that knowledge is common now for LEOs as it happens daily. Got me thinking. In my opinion, narcan should only be used for LEOs & EMTs who have to deal with this crap. Why use it on anyone who will continue to use drugs and very possibly cause harm to the first responders willing to save them.

@EarlThePearls I realize that.
This video shows something all too common now, going on in this country. And it infuriates me that junkies like this can be brought back from the brink of death just to do it again.
@ThomasWic

@Baline

You never know what is a person's bottom.

Maybe this use of narcan will be the one that takes.

Took me 10 years to quit.

Sure glad no one gave up on me

LIFE IS VALUABLE

@EarlThePearls I'm thrilled that you kicked it. Sorry if I'm irritating you, Earl. Not my intention. I'm going thru a rough patch myself the last few days; feeling down and a bit frustrated. This is my issue, not yours. Peace.

@Baline No worries - My comments are not addressed to you specifically.
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General Comment:

I have noticed in general lately that some people seem to think killing folks for whatever small reason is fine.

If one goes armed, one needs to figure out the level at which you will kill a person

I assume if one carries, one is prepared to kill, yes?

@EarlThePearls @Baline

Nobody thinks that.

You've built an Obama-level straw man.

If you don't want to carry a gun to defend yourself, don't carry a gun.

But don't lie about others' motivations.

Try surviving attempted murder.

It clears the cobwebs from your mind. Believe me.

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@ThomasWic @Baline

It's my observation reading comments of people. I don't think the people I am referring to have been in your situation

The replies I have received show that most here have thought that through.

It doesn't bother me one way or the other if one carries a weapon. Just be a responsible person if you do.

I've made it over 6o years without needing one yet. I am fortunate.

Others not so much

@ThomasWic @Baline

Additionally: My toot was as much to spur thought and consideration of the serious nature of weaponry and to get a conversation going as anything.

It worked

@EarlThePearls @ThomasWic @Baline

Accusing a woman of wanting to shoot someone just to protect "personal belongings"... doesn't sound like spurring thought and getting conversation going.

It sounds more like you were being a a wanker.

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